Sentencing Where a Defendant Crosses the Child/Adult Threshold: “Starting Point at Date of Offence” Is Powerful but Not Determinative; Disparity May Be Explained by Plea Strategy

Clarke, R. v [2025] EWCA Crim 1780 (CA (Crim Div), 17 December 2025)

1) Introduction

Clarke, R. v is a Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) decision concerning the proper approach to sentencing when a defendant was a child at the time of offending (16), but is sentenced as an adult (18) due to the progress of proceedings and, critically, the defendant’s choice to maintain a not-guilty plea until trial. The appellant appealed an 18-month suspended sentence order (SSO) for violent disorder (and a concurrent 2-month SSO for possessing an offensive weapon), arguing that any custodial sentence—even suspended—was wrong in principle; the correct outcome, he submitted, was a community order.

The case arose out of a serious incident of violent disorder in Hawksley Square, Birmingham on 10 August 2022, during which the appellant was seen on CCTV wielding an iron pole (later passed to a co-defendant). A victim suffered life-threatening stab injuries (not attributed to the appellant), and other serious harm.

The key legal issues were:

  • How the “age threshold” principles apply where a defendant crosses from child to adult between offence and sentence, but the lapse of time is not “historic offending” in the conventional sense.
  • Whether the court should treat a youth-disposal outcome (such as a Referral Order) as effectively determinative, particularly where a co-defendant received such a disposal.
  • Whether asserted sentencing “disparity” between the appellant and a similarly aged co-defendant made the Crown Court outcome unfair or wrong in principle.

2) Summary of the Judgment

The Court of Appeal dismissed the appeal. It held that:

  • There was no error of principle and the sentence was not manifestly excessive.
  • While the appellant’s age at the time of offending (16) was a significant factor, the “starting point” of what would likely have been imposed then was not determinative; the seriousness of the violent disorder justified custody, and the judge was entitled to impose a custodial sentence and then to suspend it.
  • Any disparity with co-defendant Bradley Case (who received a Referral Order in the Youth Court) was readily explicable: the appellant maintained a not-guilty plea until the day of trial, which was “the sole reason” he was sentenced in the Crown Court rather than remitted to the Youth Court.
  • The court directed a technical correction: the record should reflect a “suspended sentence of detention in a young offender institution” rather than “a suspended sentence of imprisonment.”

3) Analysis

A) Precedents Cited

R v Ahmed [2023] EWCA Crim 281

The appellant relied on R v Ahmed [2023] EWCA Crim 281. The Court of Appeal characterised Ahmed as “principally” providing guidance on sentencing adults for historic offences committed when they were children, emphasising that the starting point must be the sentence appropriate at the time of the offence.

However, the court treated Ahmed as not “really” being on all fours: the present case was not one where decades had passed, nor one where the “historic offending” context was central. Ahmed nonetheless mattered because it approved the earlier authority that directly governed age-threshold transitions.

R v Ghafoor [2002] EWCA Crim 1857

The court identified R v Ghafoor [2002] EWCA Crim 1857 as the more pertinent authority, specifically as approved in Ahmed. The key passage (para. 31 as quoted in the judgment) states that where a defendant crosses a relevant age threshold between commission and conviction, “the starting point is the sentence that the defendant would have been likely to receive if he had been sentenced at the date of the commission of the offence,” described as “a powerful factor,” and that there must be “good reasons” to depart from that starting point.

In Clarke, the Court of Appeal applied Ghafoor in a structured way:

  • It accepted that a non-custodial outcome “might have been the starting point” had the appellant been sentenced at 16.
  • It emphasised that this is “only a starting point,” not a binding ceiling, and does not preclude custody where seriousness demands it.
  • It treated the appellant’s role and the nature of the disorder as sufficient “good reasons” to justify a custodial sentence, even while recognising the youth-related mitigation through reduction and suspension.

R v Thomas [2020] EWCA Crim 822

The court itself drew counsel’s attention to R v Thomas [2020] EWCA Crim 822 as a potential comparator on disparity. In Thomas, one defendant who turned 18 during proceedings received a Crown Court community order, while slightly younger co-defendants were remitted to the Youth Court and received Referral Orders. The Court of Appeal in Thomas reduced the onerousness of the community-order requirements to align broadly with the Youth Court outcomes.

In Clarke, the Court of Appeal distinguished Thomas on two central bases:

  • Seriousness: Thomas involved section 4 Public Order Act behaviour; Clarke involved violent disorder with grave consequences and clear crossing of the custody threshold.
  • Cause of divergence: In Thomas, the divergence was essentially caused by the appellant “coming of age” relative to co-accused. In Clarke, the court treated the divergence as flowing from a “tactical decision” to maintain a not-guilty plea until trial, which prevented Youth Court sentencing/remittal.

Thus, Thomas served less as a template for outcome and more as a boundary marker: disparity concerns are fact-sensitive, and explanations grounded in procedural choices and offence seriousness can defeat an “unfairness” argument.

B) Legal Reasoning

The court’s reasoning proceeds along three interlocking tracks: (i) the correct Ghafoor “starting point” analysis, (ii) seriousness and the custody threshold, and (iii) disparity and public-perception fairness.

(i) The “starting point at time of offence” is powerful, not determinative

The court accepted the conceptual force of the youth-sentencing premise: had sentencing occurred at 16, the framework would have been different (e.g., any custody would have been a Detention and Training Order, and custodial options cannot simply be transposed as if the defendant were an adult at sentence). Nonetheless, Ghafoor does not require the court to freeze the eventual sentence at what would have happened at 16; it requires the court to begin there, and then decide whether there are “good reasons” to depart.

On the facts, the court held the judge was entitled to move beyond that starting point because the appellant played a “significant role” in a violent disorder that “clearly passed the custody threshold.” Youth at the time of offence was already given substantial weight by the judge via a reduction (the judge adopted 20 months for the appellant, described as two-thirds of the adult sentence he considered appropriate) and by suspending the term after a careful balancing exercise.

(ii) Seriousness and guideline structure: custody justified; suspension mitigates

The sentencing judge categorised the violent disorder as category 2B under the relevant Sentencing Council guideline, with an adult starting point of two years’ custody (range 1–3 years). The Court of Appeal did not disrupt that evaluative judgment.

Importantly, the appeal attacked custody per se, not merely length or suspension. The Court of Appeal answered that attack by reasserting the custody threshold concept: where offending crosses that threshold, a custodial sentence can be necessary to “mark” seriousness, even where substantial mitigation exists. The judge’s decision to suspend (with rehabilitation activity and unpaid work) was treated as the appropriate mechanism to recognise maturation and rehabilitation since the offence.

(iii) Disparity: explained by plea choice; no “something gone wrong”

The appellant’s disparity case relied on co-defendant Bradley Case (similar age) being sentenced in the Youth Court to a Referral Order, with the submission that the appellant would “almost certainly” have been remitted and similarly sentenced had he pleaded guilty at the PTPH.

The Court of Appeal’s response was robust:

  • It found the appellant had the opportunity to plead guilty at PTPH and did not; maintaining a not-guilty plea until trial was “the sole reason” Youth Court sentencing did not occur.
  • It applied an objective “right thinking member of the public” lens: with full knowledge, such an observer would understand why the outcomes differed and would not view it as an indication that the administration of justice malfunctioned.

The court thereby located disparity analysis within broader fairness principles: disparity is not unfair merely because co-accused receive different disposals; it becomes problematic when it is unexplained or suggests systemic error. Here, the court held it was explained and justified.

(iv) Practical-consequences argument: noted but not developed

The court queried counsel about practical differences between a suspended custodial sentence and a community order (e.g., future employment implications). The inability to identify concrete differences did not drive the legal analysis, but it underscores the court’s view of the appeal’s narrowness: absent clear legal error or excess, the appellate court will not intervene merely to re-label the disposal.

(v) Record correction: “imprisonment” vs “detention in a young offender institution”

Finally, the court directed an amendment because the record incorrectly referred to “imprisonment” rather than “detention in a young offender institution.” This is a technical but important point: the legal character of the custodial sentence must match the offender’s age category at sentence, and the record must accurately reflect the lawful custodial regime.

C) Impact

Clarke consolidates and operationalises the age-threshold approach in a non-historic context. Its likely impacts include:

  • Reaffirmation of Ghafoor as the governing “age-threshold” framework: Sentencers and advocates should treat the “sentence at time of offence” as a structured starting point, but not a cap. Seriousness can justify departure.
  • Sharper limits on disparity arguments where procedural choices explain divergence: Where a youth co-defendant receives a Youth Court disposal after an early guilty plea, another defendant cannot readily claim unfairness if they delayed plea and thereby lost remittal. The court signals that “disparity” will be assessed through an explanation-and-perception lens rather than simple parity-of-outcomes.
  • Custody threshold in youth-origin cases: The decision supports the proposition that serious public order violence can justify (suspended) custody even where the offender was 16 at the time, provided the court explicitly accounts for youth and applies guideline principles on suspension.
  • Practical importance for defence strategy: Although not framed as a “plea advice” case, the reasoning highlights that delaying a guilty plea can have structural sentencing consequences (forum, available disposals, and comparators), beyond discount for plea.

4) Complex Concepts Simplified

Violent disorder (Public Order Act 1986, s.2)
A serious public order offence involving violence by a group (typically three or more) such that a person of reasonable firmness would fear for their safety. It is more serious than lower-level threatening behaviour offences and often attracts custody where harm/risk is grave.
Custody threshold
The point at which an offence is so serious that neither a fine nor a community sentence can be justified, and a custodial sentence is required to reflect seriousness (even if it is later suspended).
Suspended Sentence Order (SSO)
A custodial term imposed but not activated immediately, provided the offender complies with conditions (e.g., unpaid work, rehabilitation). Breach can result in activation (serving the custody). An SSO remains a custodial sentence in law.
Referral Order
A Youth Court sentence for eligible young offenders (typically first-time offenders pleading guilty) involving referral to a youth offender panel and a contract of rehabilitative/reparative actions for a set period.
“Crossing the age threshold”
Situations where the offender is a child at the time of offence but is convicted/sentenced after turning 18. Case law directs courts to start from what would likely have happened at the time of offending, but allows departure for good reasons.
Detention and Training Order (DTO) / Detention in a Young Offender Institution (YOI)
Different custodial frameworks for younger offenders. The Court of Appeal’s correction indicates the formal type of custody must be recorded correctly for the offender’s age category at sentence.

5) Conclusion

Clarke, R. v confirms that, where an offender was under 18 at the time of offending but is sentenced later, the court must take as its starting point the likely sentence at the time of the offence (per R v Ghafoor [2002] EWCA Crim 1857, as approved in R v Ahmed [2023] EWCA Crim 281). Yet that starting point does not compel a non-custodial disposal: where the offence crosses the custody threshold and the offender played a significant role, a custodial sentence (including a suspended one) may be justified, provided youth mitigation is properly reflected.

The decision also narrows the practical reach of co-defendant disparity arguments in this context: if differences in outcome are explained by plea timing and forum consequences—rather than arbitrary treatment—the Court of Appeal is unlikely to intervene. Finally, the judgment emphasises technical accuracy in recording the correct legal form of custody (“detention in a young offender institution” rather than “imprisonment”).