IPP Wrong in Principle Where Judge Fails to Consider Extended Sentence After 14 July 2008 Amendments

Case: Ahmed, R. v ([2025] EWCA Crim 1572)

Court: England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)

Date: 13 November 2025

1. Introduction

This application concerned a challenge—brought extraordinarily late (5,755 days out of time)—to an imprisonment for public protection (IPP) sentence imposed in 2008 for a serious robbery. The applicant (Ahmed), aged 20 at sentence, had pleaded guilty to robbery contrary to s.8 Theft Act 1968. He was sentenced at Derby Crown Court to IPP with a 2½-year minimum term (the judge should, given age, have imposed detention for public protection (DPP) if an indeterminate sentence was justified).

Two issues dominated the appeal:

  1. Dangerousness: whether the judge was entitled to find the applicant posed a “significant risk of serious harm” under the Criminal Justice Act 2003 dangerousness regime.
  2. Choice of sentence after July 2008 amendment: given that, from 14 July 2008, an extended determinate sentence became available, whether the judge erred by imposing IPP without expressly considering the extended sentence option.

The case arose at a legally sensitive moment: sentencing had been adjourned to obtain psychiatric evidence, and by the time of final disposal (11 September 2008) the statutory landscape had changed. The Court of Appeal ultimately held the IPP was imposed on a flawed basis because the sentencing judge did not consider the newly available extended sentence, and substituted an extended determinate sentence totalling 10 years (5 years’ custody + 5 years’ extended licence).

2. Summary of the Judgment

  • Extension of time granted: Despite the extreme delay, the Court found the merits sufficiently strong and the explanation adequate to grant an extension and leave to appeal.
  • Dangerousness upheld: The Court rejected the argument that the judge erred in concluding the applicant met the dangerousness test, emphasising escalation, the organised knife-point robbery, troubling expert material, lack of cooperation with psychiatric assessment, and the psychiatrist’s conclusion of significant risk.
  • IPP/DPP quashed as wrong in principle: The Court inferred that the sentencing judge did not consider the extended determinate sentence option introduced by the 14 July 2008 amendments. This omission made the IPP (a “second last resort”) unjustified.
  • Substituted sentence: An extended determinate sentence of 10 years was imposed: 5 years’ custody and 5 years’ extended licence.

3. Analysis

A. Precedents Cited

Attorney-General's Reference (No 55 of 2008) [2008] EWCA Crim 2790; [2008] 2 Cr. App. R. (S.) 22

Although decided after the applicant’s 2008 sentencing, this authority framed the Court of Appeal’s evaluation of the post-amendment discretion. It characterises IPP as “the most draconian sentence available... after a discretionary life sentence,” and emphasises that, where an extended sentence can provide appropriate public protection, it should be imposed instead. The Court in Ahmed treated these principles as consistent with, and flowing from, the amended statutory structure: once Parliament provided a menu of options, it became “inherently necessary” to consider the extended sentence alternative.

R v Wilkinson [2009] EWCA Crim 1925; [2010] 1 Cr App R (S) 100

Cited to underline the practical similarities between IPP and life imprisonment—indeterminacy, Parole Board-controlled release, and a minimum term fixed by reference to a hypothetical determinate sentence. This comparison bolstered the Court’s view that IPP sits near the top of the severity scale, reinforcing the need for careful justification where lesser protective measures (notably extended sentences) are available.

R v Lang [2005] EWCA Crim 2864; [2005] 2 Cr. App. R. (S.) 3

Used to support two linked propositions: (i) the “for all practical purposes” similarity between IPP/DPP and life sentences; and (ii) the sentencing culture of caution around indeterminate protective sentences, particularly relevant when the applicant was a young adult and when the court must articulate why an indeterminate approach is required.

R v Roberts [2016] EWCA Crim 71; [2016] 2 Cr App R (S) 14

Roberts provided the governing framework in two respects. First, it re-stated extension-of-time principles: reasons are required, and the court weighs all circumstances (including delay and merits) in the “interests of justice.” Second, it cautioned that later penal policy changes (such as the abolition of IPP) do not, by themselves, justify re-opening earlier sentences; intervention is warranted where the original sentence was not properly open on the law as it stood (or was imposed contrary to controlling interpretations). Ahmed fits within that exception: the Court found the sentencing process did not engage with the statutorily available option of an extended sentence, rendering the IPP wrong in principle.

R v Johnson [2007] 1 WLR 585

Relied on by the Crown to rebut a common misconception: a dangerousness finding does not depend on serious harm having actually occurred in the index offence. The Court accepted that the absence of serious harm to the victim did not preclude dangerousness; what mattered was the risk posed and the seriousness of the threatened harm (here, a large knife held to the victim’s throat in an organised robbery).

R v Considine [2008] 1 WLR 414

Supported the proposition that, in assessing dangerousness, the sentencing judge is not confined to matters proved by conviction or evidence admissible at trial. The Court used this to uphold reliance on expert reports and prison medical notes referencing an alleged serious assault on another inmate, especially where counsel had (as recorded) confirmed the truth of the account given by the applicant to the psychologist.

B. Legal Reasoning

(1) Dangerousness was established on the totality of the material

The Court treated dangerousness as a fact-sensitive, evaluative judgment. While acknowledging that the applicant’s prior record contained no offences matching the gravity of the robbery and “nothing in relation to serious acts of violence,” it emphasised:

  • Escalation and immediacy: the robbery occurred the day after release and while on licence, and represented a marked escalation.
  • Seriousness of threat: a large knife was used at the victim’s throat; limited injury was fortuitous, dependent on compliance.
  • Expert evidence: psychological indications of antisocial traits and psychiatric concerns about hallucinations/personality disorder.
  • Institutional risk markers: accounts (accepted by the sentencing process) of extreme violence towards another inmate, weapons concealment, and arson risk indicators in custody.
  • Non-cooperation: resistance to psychiatric evaluation impeded risk formulation and management planning.

The Court therefore refused to disturb the dangerousness finding.

(2) Post-14 July 2008: failure to consider an extended determinate sentence made IPP wrong in principle

The decisive reasoning lay not in whether IPP could be imposed, but in whether the judge’s sentencing exercise correctly engaged with the amended statutory framework. The Court stressed:

  • Statutory change created a new decision obligation: after 14 July 2008, a dangerousness finding did not compel IPP; it triggered a choice among life, IPP (s.225), extended determinate sentence (s.227), or determinate sentence.
  • Need for express consideration: because IPP is near the apex of severity (“second last resort”), the sentencing judge had to consider whether an extended sentence could provide adequate public protection.
  • Inference from silence and context: the Court drew an inference that the extended sentence option was not considered, based on (i) the absence of any mention in sentencing remarks; (ii) the judge’s earlier (11 July 2008) stated intention to pass IPP (at a time when extended sentences were not available); and (iii) pre-sentence materials pre-dating the amendment.

This was not treated as a mere “reasons” deficiency; rather, it went to whether the judge carried out the correct legal exercise under the amended regime. Having found the omission, the Court re-sentenced and concluded that public protection could be sufficiently achieved by a substantial extended determinate sentence (5 years’ custody plus 5 years’ extended licence), rejecting the need for indeterminacy.

(3) Extension of time: merits can outweigh extreme delay

Applying the Roberts framework, the Court accepted that the delay was very long, but found it in the interests of justice to extend time because the appeal exposed a material sentencing error: the imposition of an indeterminate sentence without engaging the post-amendment statutory option of an extended sentence. The stronger the underlying injustice, the more likely the Court will grant exceptional extensions—though this remains discretionary and fact-dependent.

C. Impact

The decision has practical importance for the residual cohort of IPP/DPP prisoners sentenced before abolition (post-2012 abolition does not itself re-open sentences). Its main impacts are:

  • Sentencing-error pathway for historic IPPs: where sentencing occurred after 14 July 2008, the record must show that the court considered the extended determinate sentence option. If it did not, IPP may be vulnerable as “wrong in principle.”
  • Inference from sentencing remarks: silence on extended sentences, especially where earlier hearings occurred pre-amendment, may allow an appellate inference that the judge failed to consider the new option—opening the door to re-sentencing.
  • Extensions of time remain possible: even profound delay can be overcome where the identified error is serious (indeterminate custody) and the merits are strong.
  • Public protection can be met by extended licence: the substituted 5+5 structure illustrates the Court’s view that robust post-release control can suffice even for very serious robbery, where indeterminacy is not demonstrably necessary.

4. Complex Concepts Simplified

IPP / DPP
Indeterminate public protection sentences (IPP for adults, DPP for certain younger offenders) keep a person in custody beyond the minimum term until the Parole Board decides risk is manageable. The minimum term is not the sentence length; it is the earliest release consideration date.
Dangerousness (CJA 2003)
A court may find an offender “dangerous” if there is a significant risk of serious harm to the public from further specified offences. It is not necessary that the current offence caused serious injury; the court assesses risk.
Extended determinate sentence
A determinate prison term plus an extended period on licence (supervision in the community). It is designed to protect the public by controlling risk after release, without imposing an indeterminate sentence.
“Last resort” / “second last resort” idea
The Court treats life imprisonment as the most severe protective sentence, with IPP close behind. The legal culture therefore expects a court to justify why lesser protective options (like extended sentences) are insufficient.
McCook procedure
A process by which the Court of Appeal may seek information from trial counsel/solicitors to clarify what happened below (e.g., whether a particular option was argued).

5. Conclusion

Ahmed, R. v confirms a sharp, case-specific principle for post-14 July 2008 sentencing under the amended dangerousness regime: where an extended determinate sentence is statutorily available, the court must actively consider it before imposing an IPP/DPP. Failure to do so can render an indeterminate sentence wrong in principle, justifying appellate intervention—even many years out of time.

At the same time, the judgment draws a clear line consistent with R v Roberts: the abolition of IPP does not itself re-open old sentences. The successful challenge here depended on identifying a concrete error within the law as it stood in September 2008—namely, the non-consideration of the newly introduced extended sentence option.