1. Introduction
This judgment clarifies the relationship between the statutory starting points for sentencing children convicted of murder and the requirement for an individual assessment of their maturity, intellectual functioning and culpability. It also reaffirms the demanding threshold for increasing a sentence on an Attorney General’s Reference: a sentence must be unduly lenient, not merely generous.
The Solicitor General challenged the minimum terms imposed on two young offenders, identified here as MS and DGB, following their convictions for murder. Both received detention at His Majesty’s pleasure. Their minimum terms, before credit for time spent on remand, were 17 years and 15 years respectively.
The prosecution accepted that the sentencing judge, Griffiths J, had selected the correct statutory starting points and identified the relevant aggravating and mitigating factors. Its complaint concerned the weight given to those factors and the adequacy of the explanation for the resulting reductions.
Giving the judgment of the Court of Appeal, Lord Justice Popplewell rejected both criticisms. The court granted leave to refer the sentences but declined to increase either minimum term. The decision develops existing principles rather than creating an unrestricted power to disregard statutory starting points.
2. Background and Sentencing Framework
The offence and the offenders’ different roles
MS was 17 and DGB was 16 when the murder occurred. After drinking heavily, DGB initiated an unprovoked attack on a stranger outside a house. His conduct included repeated racist abuse. MS joined the confrontation, then returned to the house, obtained a knife and concealed it behind his back before stabbing the victim once in the heart. The sentencing judge found that MS intended to kill.
DGB intended to cause really serious injury, but did not know that MS had obtained a knife. The judge accepted that DGB neither intended the victim’s death nor expected the attack to result in death. That distinction became central to the assessment of his minimum term.
After the stabbing, MS attempted to clean the knife with bleach. Both offenders left the scene and were arrested nearby. They later pleaded guilty to an alternative count of manslaughter, but the prosecution did not accept those pleas as resolving the case. The murder trial continued, and both were convicted.
The victim’s mother and wife described the devastating consequences of his death, including the loss suffered by his young child. The Court of Appeal expressly acknowledged that lasting harm.
The sentences referred to the Court of Appeal
Starting points and minimum terms
| Issue |
MS |
DGB |
| Relevant seriousness category |
Taking a knife to the scene intending to have it available as a weapon |
Murder aggravated by racial hostility |
| Corresponding adult starting point |
25 years |
30 years |
| Starting point under paragraph 5A of Schedule 21 |
23 years |
20 years |
| Minimum term before remand credit |
17 years |
15 years |
| Minimum term after remand credit |
16 years and 133 days |
14 years and 133 days |
The six-year and five-year reductions represented the judge’s overall balancing of aggravation and mitigation. They were not automatic discounts for age, diagnoses or the earlier manslaughter pleas.
Reporting restrictions
The Court of Appeal continued protection for DGB under section 45 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 until his eighteenth birthday. The order prohibits publication of material likely to identify him as a person concerned in the proceedings, including his name, address, place of detention or image. The court modified the wording to reflect the position following conviction.
3. Summary of the Judgment
The court’s principal conclusions were:
- The statutory starting point must be identified correctly. Developmental difficulties do not authorise a judge to substitute a different starting point for the one prescribed by Schedule 21.
- A starting point is not a presumptive final minimum term. Paragraph 8 permits a minimum term of any length after proper consideration of aggravating and mitigating factors.
- Chronological age does not exhaust the assessment of a child’s culpability. Developmental and emotional age, intellectual disability, impulsivity and susceptibility to influence may justify substantial further adjustment.
- The relevant Sentencing Council guidelines apply to murder. The guidelines concerning children and young people, and offenders with mental disorders or developmental impairments, operate alongside Schedule 21.
- Sentencing reasons need not be expressed as arithmetic. A judge must explain the relevant factors and overall conclusion, but need not assign numerical values to individual factors or to aggravation and mitigation collectively.
- Neither sentence was outside the reasonable sentencing range. The minimum terms were therefore left unchanged.
4. Precedents Cited and Their Influence
Attorney General's Reference No 4 of 1989
In Attorney General's Reference No 4 of 1989 (1989) 11 Cr App R(S) 489; [1990] 1 WLR 41, Lord Lane CJ explained that a sentence is unduly lenient when it falls outside the range that a judge, considering all relevant factors, could reasonably regard as appropriate.
This supplied the governing test. The Court of Appeal was not deciding which minimum terms it would itself have imposed. It was deciding whether the sentencing judge’s terms were reasonably available. The authority also supported recognition of the trial judge’s advantage in assessing competing considerations and the legitimacy of mercy within lawful sentencing.
Its significance was particularly strong here because the challenge identified no error in the starting points or relevant factors. The prosecution therefore had to establish that the evaluative outcome itself was impermissible.
Attorney General's Reference No 8 of 2007 (R v Danielle Krivec)
In Attorney General's Reference No 8 of 2007 (R v Danielle Krivec) [2007] EWCA Crim 922; [2008] 1 Cr App R(S) 1, Lord Phillips CJ emphasised that even a substantial departure from guidelines does not, without more, justify intervention. Leniency supported by the facts is legitimate.
This authority answered any suggestion that reductions of six and five years were necessarily excessive because of their size. The issue was whether those reductions were justified by the particular offenders and offences, not whether they appeared striking when compared with the starting points.
R v Jones (Neil) and R v Kamarra-Jarra
The court cited R v Jones (Neil) and R v Kamarra-Jarra [2024] EWCA Crim 198; [2024] 2 Cr App R(S) 19 when explaining the flexible operation of Schedule 21.
As used in this judgment, these authorities establish that the statutory categories should not be applied mechanically. Their substantial intervals, and the statutory language describing the cases that will “normally” fall within them, require attention to the full circumstances. Paragraph 8 expressly permits the final minimum term to be of any length after the necessary assessment.
Their influence was therefore structural: Schedule 21 supplies a disciplined starting framework, not an inflexible tariff that prevents substantial individual adjustment.
R v BGI and CMB and R v VGT
R v BGI and CMB [2024] EWCA Crim 1591 and R v VGT [2026] EWCA Crim 919 supported the proposition that this flexibility applies to children as well as adults.
The present judgment explains why flexibility is especially important for children. Chronological age may be an imperfect indicator of emotional development, intellectual functioning and the ability to appreciate consequences. Those matters can affect culpability for the very conduct that places the murder within a higher statutory category.
The court did not suggest that these authorities permit judges to ignore paragraph 5A. Rather, they support individualised assessment after the prescribed starting point has been selected.
R v Ratcliffe
R v Ratcliffe [2024] EWCA Crim 1498; [2025] 1 Cr app R(S) 45 was decisive on the adequacy of sentencing reasons.
That decision explains that sections 52(2) and 322(4) of the Sentencing Act 2020 require identification of the starting point, the minimum term imposed and the aggravating and mitigating considerations explaining the outcome. They do not require a numerical valuation of each factor or of aggravation and mitigation as separate groups.
The Solicitor General did not demand a separate figure for every individual factor. Instead, the argument was that the judge should have quantified aggravation collectively so that the scale of mitigation could be understood. The court held that R v Ratcliffe also excluded that supposed requirement. Numerical presentation may sometimes assist, but it is not a mandatory component of adequate reasons and can falsely suggest mathematical precision.
5. Legal Reasoning
A. Correct starting points and individualised outcomes are complementary
The judgment distinguishes two stages of the sentencing exercise. First, the judge must identify the starting point prescribed by Schedule 21. Second, the judge must assess the aggravating and mitigating circumstances to determine the appropriate minimum term.
MS’s knife-related conduct produced a starting point of 23 years; DGB’s racially aggravated offending produced one of 20 years. Neither starting point was disputed. However, paragraph 8 meant that neither figure operated as a floor or as a limit on the extent of a justified reduction.
This distinction prevents two opposite errors: bypassing the statutory framework because an offender has significant difficulties, and treating that framework as having already resolved every question of culpability.
B. Paragraph 5A does not make chronological age conclusive
The court illustrated the sharp differences created by age bands. Had MS been approximately two months younger, his starting point would have been 17 rather than 23 years. Had DGB been approximately eight months older, his starting point would have been 27 rather than 20 years.
Those differences did not make the statutory provisions optional. They demonstrated why subsequent individual assessment remained essential. Paragraph 5A does not create a final sentencing “cliff edge” determined solely by birthdays.
For MS, the judge found maturity below his chronological age and below that of DGB. The Court of Appeal observed that a chronological age corresponding to his assessed maturity would have produced a 17-year starting point. This was an explanation of the significance of his developmental position, not the adoption of a replacement statutory starting point or a general formula for converting maturity into years.
C. Sentencing guidelines remain applicable to murder
Section 59 of the Sentencing Act 2020 requires courts to follow relevant sentencing guidelines unless doing so would be contrary to the interests of justice. Section 322(3) requires regard to Schedule 21 and relevant general sentencing guidelines that are compatible with it.
The court held that the guidelines on sentencing children and young people, and on sentencing offenders with mental disorders, developmental disorders or neurological impairments, are compatible with Schedule 21. Their relevance does not disappear because the offence is murder.
The required approach is qualitatively different from simply reducing an adult sentence. It involves examining the particular child’s development, emotional volatility, understanding of consequences, impulsivity and exposure to negative influences.
The court also invoked section 231(2), concerning the shortest custodial sentence commensurate with seriousness, as reinforcing the legitimacy of justified leniency. That observation did not alter the mandatory form of sentence imposed for murder.
D. MS: the connection between impairment and the aggravating conduct
MS’s conduct contained substantial aggravation: an unprovoked group attack, intoxication, escalation through obtaining a knife, attempted destruction of evidence and a recent youth conditional caution for serious violence.
Nevertheless, the evidence disclosed exceptional intellectual limitations, including an assessed IQ of 60, immaturity, ADHD, adverse childhood experiences and pronounced susceptibility to his friend’s influence. The sentencing judge accepted important mitigating effects while rejecting aspects of the defence psychiatric evidence, including the diagnosis of complex PTSD.
The crucial reasoning concerned the relationship between those difficulties and the decision to obtain the knife. That decision remained gravely culpable and continued to determine the statutory category. But its culpability could not be assessed properly without considering MS’s limited ability to evaluate consequences, impulsivity and desire for peer approval.
This was not mitigation based merely on the existence of a diagnosis. It was an assessment of how the offender’s functioning affected the conduct for which he was being sentenced. The Court of Appeal regarded the resulting minimum term as merciful but within the permissible range.
E. DGB: differentiating responsibility without minimising racial violence
DGB initiated and led a sustained racist attack on a stranger. He was intoxicated, acted with another offender and committed the offence while on bail. Racial hostility was already reflected in his 20-year starting point; the other aggravating features remained relevant.
The principal counterweight was his intention and knowledge. He intended really serious injury, but did not know about the knife and did not intend or expect death. Schedule 21 expressly identifies absence of an intention to kill as mitigating. On these facts, the court held that this consideration necessarily carried very substantial weight.
That did not undermine the murder conviction, which was not under challenge. It distinguished degrees of culpability within murder and, in particular, the offenders’ different responsibility for the fatal knife use.
The sentencing judge also considered remorse, impulsivity, relative immaturity, ADHD, autism spectrum disorder and a troubled childhood. Importantly, he rejected the suggestion that DGB functioned at an age far below his actual age and gave limited weight to his diagnoses and personal background. The Court of Appeal therefore found no basis for saying that mitigation had been accepted uncritically or that the racist violence had been understated.
F. Appellate restraint and sufficient reasons
The trial judge had heard the evidence, considered expert reports and observed both offenders throughout the proceedings. Those advantages mattered particularly when assessing maturity and the practical effects of intellectual or developmental difficulties.
That did not make the sentences immune from review. It meant that disagreement about weight was insufficient unless the resulting sentence fell outside the reasonable range.
The judge’s concise sentencing remarks were also appropriate to the offenders’ ages. They identified the statutory starting points, the relevant factors and the overall direction of the balancing exercise. The Court of Appeal described them as clear and well structured. Brevity did not amount to a failure to explain the decision.
6. Impact and Limits of the Decision
Individual development must be considered beyond the age-based starting point
The judgment strengthens the position that paragraph 5A does not exhaust youth-related mitigation. Where a child’s development materially differs from chronological age, that difference can require substantial adjustment. This is not necessarily double counting: the statutory age band and the offender’s particular developmental limitations address distinct matters.
Evidence should explain functional effects
For future cases, the decision highlights the importance of evidence explaining how intellectual disability, developmental disorders or trauma affected the offence. A diagnostic label alone does not establish the appropriate reduction. The contrasting treatment of MS and DGB demonstrates that judges must evaluate severity, practical impact and the strength of the supporting evidence.
Co-offenders need not receive mechanically aligned terms
The judgment supports careful differentiation between offenders convicted of the same murder. Leadership, racial motivation, weapon knowledge and intention may affect different parts of the analysis. Neither identical convictions nor participation in a common attack eliminates those distinctions.
Large reductions are not automatically unlawful
A substantial difference between starting point and final minimum term may be justified. Future references must address the complete sentencing assessment rather than rely on the numerical size of the reduction alone.
The ruling does not create a standard discount
The decision establishes no fixed reduction for ADHD, autism, intellectual disability, immaturity or lack of intent to kill. Nor does it permit judges to overlook racist hostility or knife use. Its central requirement is an evidence-based, individual assessment within the statutory framework.
It also does not decide any new issue concerning joint criminal liability. The convictions stood; the appeal concerned sentencing alone.
7. Complex Concepts Simplified
- Unduly lenient
- A sentence outside the range reasonably available to the sentencing judge—not simply one that another judge might consider too low.
- Starting point
- The statutory figure from which the minimum-term assessment begins. It is neither the inevitable final figure nor a minimum permitted sentence.
- Minimum term
- The period that must be served before release can be considered under the applicable release arrangements. Its expiry does not guarantee release.
- Detention at His Majesty’s pleasure
- The mandatory indeterminate sentence imposed here because the offenders were under 18 when they committed murder. The minimum term is only one component of that sentence.
- Developmental or emotional age
- An assessment of maturity and functioning that may differ from age measured in years. It can affect the capacity to resist pressure, control impulses and appreciate consequences.
- Culpability
- The offender’s degree of blameworthiness, assessed through matters such as intention, understanding, planning and individual functioning.
- Mitigation without a defence
- A condition or circumstance may reduce the appropriate sentence even though it does not prevent conviction or establish a partial defence to murder.
- Evaluative judgment
- A reasoned assessment of competing considerations. It requires explanation, but cannot always be expressed accurately by assigning a number to each factor.
8. Conclusion
The central principle is that statutory starting points and individualised child sentencing must operate together. A court must begin with the correct Schedule 21 figure, but must then assess how the particular child’s development, intellectual functioning, intentions and circumstances affect culpability.
The Court of Appeal upheld both minimum terms because the sentencing judge’s careful assessment remained within the reasonable range. Substantial mitigation was not unlawful merely because it produced substantial reductions, and adequate reasons did not require an arithmetic breakdown.
The judgment also preserves an important balance: recognising a child offender’s limitations does not diminish the seriousness of murder or the enduring loss suffered by the victim’s family.